On Pat Robertson, Jesus, and His Followers
I mentioned this morning that "many people" have the impression that we -- Christians -- tend to be self-righteous and act like we know more than we actually do.
Fact is, I know many of those "many people".
One of them is me.
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I don't know what Pat Robertson thinks, really. I do know there's a time of grief, a time to mourn, and a time to dance. Timing matters, and *when* we say something matters very much, not just what we say. I've learned that the hard way in my own life.
Does he think God is punishing Haiti? I don't know. He's an older guy, and I don't think he has the filters, sometimes, to think about what's appropriate to say. I struggle with that, too, but I think (based on family members I've witnessed) it gets harder through the years.
He doesn't represent my views. I'm very comfortable saying that. And God bless him.
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And now back to the point: Whether he believes it or not, that Haiti's sickening natural disaster is caused by God because He wants to punish Haitians, some Christians *certainly* do.
I have talked to them on the phone, and get them in my email. They let me know that I'm off-base. I've said we don't know the mind of God, we shouldn't act like our thoughts are His thoughts, and our ways His ways. But they think, well, I just haven't studied Haitian history then. Did I know they practice voodoo?
And they quote scripture to me. Out of context scripture, misapplied scripture, stripped-of-story scripture, all under the banner of, "This is what God thinks, your opinion doesn't matter," as if their very application of the scripture wasn't a function of their own fallible reason.
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Scripture is largely stories. There's a whole story, a whole book, about Job, and about what he didn't know. And his friends didn't know, either. Why are these bad things happening?
Job didn't know, and admitted it. He questioned God, but remained faithful. He was rewarded richly.
His friends didn't know, but thought they did. They thought they knew the mind of God. They flapped their mouths. They had reasonable-sounding religious answers.
And they were fools.
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Humility is a wonderful thing. I learn it every day.
Talking about "blessings in disguise": Working this radio job has taught me tons about humility. Messing up, routinely, is certainly part of that. But I learned that doing "secular" radio, too.
What's uniquely humbling, here, is seeing the ugliness of the flip-side. We get to see that the critique against American Christians -- the "you're self-righteous, you think you're better" stuff? -- we see that critique is based, in large part, in reality
That's humbling.
And, between you and me, it can hurt a person's faith. I've heard of that happening to people in ministry, seen it happening to people in ministry, many times. We have to take a step back, refocus on who JESUS is, and say, "Okay, that's what He's like. He's good. Really."
"Really?" Really. Okay, but I need to hear the story again. I need to see the story again.
God, I work in Christian ministry, and that means I need to see Jesus again.
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We need reminders, like John the Baptist did. And they reassured him, telling him that Jesus IS the one, because the blind were receiving sight, the lame were walking... things were being set right.
That is what I need to see now, again.
Maybe you do, too.
Fact is, I know many of those "many people".
One of them is me.
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I don't know what Pat Robertson thinks, really. I do know there's a time of grief, a time to mourn, and a time to dance. Timing matters, and *when* we say something matters very much, not just what we say. I've learned that the hard way in my own life.
Does he think God is punishing Haiti? I don't know. He's an older guy, and I don't think he has the filters, sometimes, to think about what's appropriate to say. I struggle with that, too, but I think (based on family members I've witnessed) it gets harder through the years.
He doesn't represent my views. I'm very comfortable saying that. And God bless him.
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And now back to the point: Whether he believes it or not, that Haiti's sickening natural disaster is caused by God because He wants to punish Haitians, some Christians *certainly* do.
I have talked to them on the phone, and get them in my email. They let me know that I'm off-base. I've said we don't know the mind of God, we shouldn't act like our thoughts are His thoughts, and our ways His ways. But they think, well, I just haven't studied Haitian history then. Did I know they practice voodoo?
And they quote scripture to me. Out of context scripture, misapplied scripture, stripped-of-story scripture, all under the banner of, "This is what God thinks, your opinion doesn't matter," as if their very application of the scripture wasn't a function of their own fallible reason.
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Scripture is largely stories. There's a whole story, a whole book, about Job, and about what he didn't know. And his friends didn't know, either. Why are these bad things happening?
Job didn't know, and admitted it. He questioned God, but remained faithful. He was rewarded richly.
His friends didn't know, but thought they did. They thought they knew the mind of God. They flapped their mouths. They had reasonable-sounding religious answers.
And they were fools.
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Humility is a wonderful thing. I learn it every day.
Talking about "blessings in disguise": Working this radio job has taught me tons about humility. Messing up, routinely, is certainly part of that. But I learned that doing "secular" radio, too.
What's uniquely humbling, here, is seeing the ugliness of the flip-side. We get to see that the critique against American Christians -- the "you're self-righteous, you think you're better" stuff? -- we see that critique is based, in large part, in reality
That's humbling.
And, between you and me, it can hurt a person's faith. I've heard of that happening to people in ministry, seen it happening to people in ministry, many times. We have to take a step back, refocus on who JESUS is, and say, "Okay, that's what He's like. He's good. Really."
"Really?" Really. Okay, but I need to hear the story again. I need to see the story again.
God, I work in Christian ministry, and that means I need to see Jesus again.
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We need reminders, like John the Baptist did. And they reassured him, telling him that Jesus IS the one, because the blind were receiving sight, the lame were walking... things were being set right.
That is what I need to see now, again.
Maybe you do, too.
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Brant Hansen
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5:58 PM on January 14th, 2010
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Thank you, Brant. I appreciate this very much. That's all I'll say, because you said what I think.
Posted By Scott Eaton
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January 14, 2010 @ 1:02
Brant, I was on my way to teach preschool this morning at a Christian Preschool in a Christian Church, listening to a Christian radio station and realized how little we "Christians" really get it sometimes.
I don't know if you considered that going to Pat Robertson was the biblical thing to do before you made your comments to find out, from him directly, what his comment really meant. I get it wrong probably more than I know, but I do not carry the responsibility you do which is the ability to impact so many lives in a split second. I was very sad that you were so quick to dismiss him along with the secular crazies who monopolize the media...you did qualify your comments and I appreciated that.
I am sending this comment to you to let you know that my heart was very heavy until Nikki made her remarks that I totally agreed with! I don't think Pat Robertson had any malice or intent of doing any harm to the people of Haiti. He seems a little "out there" to me at times, but, I appreciate his heart to feed, clothe, provide shelter, etc. for so many in this world who are hurting. His organizations are literally the hands and feet of Jesus to a hurting world!
I think the enemy, who is very real, would love nothing more than to keep the followers of Christ at odds with one another instead of coming together to pray and help the people of Haiti. Please don't allow him a foothold into your heart by being a divider.
I give Nikki big time praise for her comments that, at least for my heart, redirected the conversation to what really matters.
Please take my comments in the spirit in which they are meant. I love listening to your show on my way to school each morning I teach and I had a real burden for you this morning.
I actually switched the radio to 89.9 (KLOVE) after you guys were done talking about this and, Praise God, they were play Selah's song "You Raise Me Up" and that definitely lightened my heart.
Just know the huge responsibility you have each day ( as I do with my preschoolers), inspiring the hearts and minds of people who look to you as a source of light and hope.
Blessings and hugs,
peggie
Posted By Peggie
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January 14, 2010 @ 4:56
I don't know if you considered that going to Pat Robertson was the biblical thing to do before you made your comments to find out, from him directly, what his comment really meant. I get it wrong probably more than I know, but I do not carry the responsibility you do which is the ability to impact so many lives in a split second. I was very sad that you were so quick to dismiss him along with the secular crazies who monopolize the media...you did qualify your comments and I appreciated that.
I am sending this comment to you to let you know that my heart was very heavy until Nikki made her remarks that I totally agreed with! I don't think Pat Robertson had any malice or intent of doing any harm to the people of Haiti. He seems a little "out there" to me at times, but, I appreciate his heart to feed, clothe, provide shelter, etc. for so many in this world who are hurting. His organizations are literally the hands and feet of Jesus to a hurting world!
I think the enemy, who is very real, would love nothing more than to keep the followers of Christ at odds with one another instead of coming together to pray and help the people of Haiti. Please don't allow him a foothold into your heart by being a divider.
I give Nikki big time praise for her comments that, at least for my heart, redirected the conversation to what really matters.
Please take my comments in the spirit in which they are meant. I love listening to your show on my way to school each morning I teach and I had a real burden for you this morning.
I actually switched the radio to 89.9 (KLOVE) after you guys were done talking about this and, Praise God, they were play Selah's song "You Raise Me Up" and that definitely lightened my heart.
Just know the huge responsibility you have each day ( as I do with my preschoolers), inspiring the hearts and minds of people who look to you as a source of light and hope.
Blessings and hugs,
peggie
Never heard your voice, Brother. But I hear your heart. Greetings from Europe!
"God, I work in Christian ministry and I need to see Jesus!"
That's it.
He's the only One who translates well! He works much better in German than I ever could and I've been serving Him over here for 18 years!
Keep it up. Or in other words, "don't weary in doing good."
Posted By Lisa
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January 15, 2010 @ 1:05
"God, I work in Christian ministry and I need to see Jesus!"
That's it.
He's the only One who translates well! He works much better in German than I ever could and I've been serving Him over here for 18 years!
Keep it up. Or in other words, "don't weary in doing good."
Brant, I cannot express to you and your crew how much your show blesses my life! I listen every morning on the way to work with my 8 yr old son. He knows all the songs and sings along, it Rocks! Having said that, I just want to say that it takes Faith to realize that even when we cannot explain why bad things happen, to know that God is ultiamtely in charge. Sometimes my life sucks too, not too often tho. At times when things in my life don't turn out the way I expect them to, is when I need to take a step back and say "ok God, YOU are in charge, I don't need to understand everything right now, just that you are in control! Since you referenced John the Baptist, I will too...."I must decrease that HE might increase."
God Bless you Nikki and Pablo, I feel like I know you guys personally!
From Fort Campbell, KY
Raphael Camejo
Posted By Raphael Camejo
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January 15, 2010 @ 6:40
God Bless you Nikki and Pablo, I feel like I know you guys personally!
From Fort Campbell, KY
Raphael Camejo
