If Jesus Had a Blog

 

We FINALLY got an internet cafe in Galilee.  The ESSENES have DSL, and we're just getting dial-up.  That should tell you something!

Anyway, I was hanging out with some religious leaders.  They got on my case for not keeping their Favorite Rules (apparently, you HAVE to wash up before dinner, in accordance with scripture.)  I told them religious leaders love to have rules to make everyone else feel inadequate.  Oh yeah, they "tithe", and stuff, but my Father is all about people having hearts for mercy, and justice, not hearts for a tithing rule.

Didn't fly very well.  :0

Posted 12:36 p.m.  in Category "Stuff I Was Talking About in Aramaic Today but Now I'm Typing in English"

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COMMENTS

Jesus, love ya, but I think you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater again, here.  There's nothing wrong with tithing, there's a lot of scriptural precedent for it.   

I "get" where you're coming from, a lot of the time, but this is a little too simplistic.  I encourage you to continue to learn and study. 

-- karifish777

I normally don't comment, but I had to come out of lurking here. 

"karifish" is right, Jesus.  It's easy to criticize and critique, but how exactly do we measure "mercy" and "justice"?   

Maybe pray about this and talk to your pastor about it.  Oh -- I forgot -- you don't HAVE a pastor!  (I still remember that "brood of vipers" entry...)

-- chapterboy21

J -- I usually love your blog, and I appreciate the need for "love", here, but you're basically saying (am I clear on this) that it doesn't matter if I give money or not? 

You go off on these guys, but they're following their convictions.  I appreciate your emphasis on having a heart for mercy, but that's not the only issue.  We need people to DO things that show their hearts, and tithing is part of that.  I'm glad I tithe.

My dad is a pastor, and I showed him your blog.  He said (no offense) you've probably got a thing with authority.  Anyway, I don't think you do, but you tend to over-simplify things.

-- buckeyesgo02

Dude, what are you smoking?

Honestly I love some of the funny stuff you post here (that cartoon of Herod was over-the-top, though) but this is just wrong, I'm sorry.  You are too reactionary against religious authority.  God put those authorities in your life.  Look it up in the Bible, the Word of God.  (I know, I know, I caught your post about how YOU are the word.  Didn't care for that, either.)

-- quiettimephil

OMG.  I *love* this. 

THANK YOU for posting this.  I have felt like a loser for so long, like I can't keep up with all the rules and everything my church is asking me to do and I feel like a failure as a single mom.  And you're saying you just want to see me love people!   

I'm crying. Thank you.

-- karen83

J-Train -- Love the blog.  Keep it comin' brother!

You do seem to lump all religious leaders together.  I appreciate your point, but the fact is, there are LOTS of great religious leaders out there.  You've got a little 'tude going on there, and you speak in big, blanket statements. 

Yes, our religious system is messed.  But we don't need to trash it.  We need to reform it.  Blasting our leaders doesn't help.  We NEED great religious leaders.  I just wish you'd acknowledge that. 

Anyway, just a thought from a brother.

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I linked to your blog from your woodworking site.  I had ordered a new wood pulpit, but now I'm going to cancel, now that I can see where your head is with regard to religious leaders and our system.

To be honest, I'm surprised you have a public platform in Christian ministry, and that you're still allowed to do it.  I wonder if your audiences knew what you really thought...would you still have a job?

-- preachtheword9021

Yeah, let's all stop tithing.  Let's stop obeying all the rules.  There won't be any pastors, and we won't be able to pay the bills for our churches.  Nice.

While I'm at it, I'll quit as worship pastor and give all my money to the poor.   Why don't you quit ripping on everything and tell us how church government is SUPPOSED to work?  You never detail that, you just rip, rip, rip.

-- jesusfreak777

Dude -- This story is CLASSIC.

This is why I try to link everyone to your blog.  In fact, my church-planting site is all about trying to get people to believe what you're saying.  You RULE, man. 

I'm so totally with you on the establishment, too.  The weird thing: Almost as soon as I get a new group of Jesus-blog-followers going, and then I try to recognize the mature SERVANTS among them, they all start ranking themselves, and jostling for position and attention.  Unbe-freaking-lievable. 

I write letters to them, telling them to quit putting rules on people, and then they make rules out of my letters.  Hellooooo?

Anyway, I used to be one of those guys putting rules on people, trying to make things complex.  Swet gig, that. THANKS -- seriously -- for putting me out of THAT job. 

-- saul_call_me_paul23

Love the blog.  I think you way over-simplify, and I don't think you're right on all this stuff.  But if you are, I  just wasted three years in seminary.

-- lutherules99192

i don't understand the tithe thing but i like yourblog and i read the thing about how kids rule and i liked that a lot

i like the little yellow flowers U made UR AWSOME

-- horsegirl1999

posted by Brant Hansen at 3:47 PM on March 26th, 2010
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This is so funny and thought provoking at the same time. I LOVE it.
Posted By merlene | March 26, 2010 @ 9:27
Just WAY too AWESOME.

This makes me wish that I had good reception down here in Broward/Miami-Dade for the morning show....
You could say the static adds "character"

Keep up the awesomeness.

-Josue
Posted By Josue | March 26, 2010 @ 9:41
i clearly don't read this blog as much as i should-

can you make this "What if Jesus had a blog" into a series if it's not already? Now that would be something.
Posted By Chris | March 26, 2010 @ 10:28
Brant, that is awesome. Especially the blog comments. I really liked saul_callme_paul's comment.
Very true. You should really do a continual "if jesus had a blog" blog.
Posted By Melanie | March 26, 2010 @ 10:36
I'm going to share this, it's great! Thanks for keeping me entertained and focused on Christ!
Posted By Kelly | March 26, 2010 @ 10:49
this sounds so realistic. i was reading half way through pauls comment and im like "wait.... writing letters?? is this paul" i loved this i cant wait until we are all in heaven and acctually talk to Jesus face to face and joke around like this
-A_Thinker_37
Posted By Ozzie Orozco | March 26, 2010 @ 2:05
Thanks! I'm glad this makes sense to people! I just love how people (including me) like to try to water down, or fit Jesus into our pre-established narratives. His blog would freak people out.
Posted By Brant Hansen | March 26, 2010 @ 3:14
i actually laughed out loud at the "OMG" comment :)
Posted By Emily | March 26, 2010 @ 3:26
I have to side with Brant on this one. When Christ died on the cross for our sins He abolished the law. We bog ourselves down trying to follow all these rules that peers or religious authorities put before us, but the only rule that we have to follow is Love the Lord your God with all your heart ,soul, mind, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. If we do this then we can't break any laws or rules.Love covers all things, love bares all thing.When your focus is on following rules set down by men then you can't focus on your relationship with JESUS. The pharisees and other religious leaders in Jesus time would take the laws in the Bible and the add sublaws on to them. Many people do the same today.The Bible says not to add 1 jot or 1 tittle to what is in the Bible. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. Focus on Him. Follow Him!!!
Tithing is a must I believe but what you give and when you give is between you and God.
Posted By Seth | March 26, 2010 @ 5:04
This. Yes, Brant, you've won the internet!

My husband recently gave a communion thought where he mentioned the tithe being more of an OT concept and that people should give what they're led to give, not out of guilt. The pastor gave him a lecture afterwards. The thing was, Deric didn't say NOT to give, just not to feel bullied into it, but as the pastor said "It's my salary."
Posted By Becky Markham | March 26, 2010 @ 5:49
Some people need to take a chill pill. Sorry but Brant's blog is not saying that tithing is not important at all. God wants clean hearts filled with love for others. Isn't the greatest commandment,"Love your neighbor as yourself ?" I could have sworn Jesus said that. On the issue of tithing. You can tithe all day long and not have a heart for God. I know personally it was just a step in the maturity of faith for me when I started tithing. It was a principle I heard through a sermon and in the Word and it worked on my heart. When I give, I'm giving because I love Him and I want to obey him. But there are those who give like they are checking it off a checklist or making sure everyone knows what they are giving. It's motives people!
So please chill on Brant!!
Posted By Anonymous | March 27, 2010 @ 6:58
For the record, I don't believe (and I speak here, as always, only for myself) that tithing is a practice of the New Testament church. At least, I can't find it. Giving? Yes. Helping other believers, in the interest of equality? Absolutely. Generosity? Certainly.

In this passage, though, Jesus doesn't tell the Pharisees not to tithe. Jesus is an observant Jew, and so are they, and tithing was the means of caring for the poor, and those who care for the poor. I do think if we're going to apply O.T. laws to ourselves, we're in serious trouble. And we also have to ignore Romans, for starters. We are no longer bound to O.T. law. For real.

I think the concept of tithing lets people off the hook at 10%, improperly equates the church with the Jewish temple system, and helps us get around the fact that 100% of our money belongs to God. It also can drain the relational aspect of giving from the very act, reducing it to a dry rule, rather than a daily interaction with God: "What should I do with my money now?"

There are many facets to this, and I can go on, but I also realize most are NEVER going to agree with me at first hearing. it's too radical. It took me a long time, myself, to accept this. Freedom is scary. It's also very threatening to a system we've established, and I know I'm in trouble for this. And this said, if one is convicted that one should give 10% to the church leadership where they attend church, I respect that, and he/she should follow his/her convictions.

But we are truly free, and that means free to go and live generous lives, and give not under compulsion, but out of cheerful compassion. We've found this to be very exciting, and our giving has joyfully increased.

Posted By Brant Hansen | March 27, 2010 @ 8:53
Thanks for the laugh, Brant. I appreciate the use of humor to teach valuable lessons.
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Posted By David D. Flowers | March 27, 2010 @ 9:25
You so have the heart of Jesus, I love your blogs
Posted By Dhana D | March 27, 2010 @ 3:20
My favorite part is the little drawing . . . .
Posted By Mimi | March 28, 2010 @ 6:26
If I remember right, Lord, You told us love mercy and justice, but also to not neglect tithing and following YOUR rules (not necessarily all the man made ones). I think we are supposed to care about both..........doing either one, but not the other, makes us incomplete. Keep me balanced, Lord.
Posted By mlorraine | March 28, 2010 @ 11:02
You all get your feathers all ruffled up over something so small... can't you see the scripture in His statements? Lighten up and dive in.
Posted By Mark Grumney | March 28, 2010 @ 8:04
You know, I must admit, I normally like your pieces Brant, but I didn't care for this one too much, for a few reasons.

1. We're putting Yeshua in our own little world of Internet and blogs and acronyms, like OMG!... (pun intended) On the contrary, Yeshua was a very simple (yet ultimately complex) man, that lived in a simple time (comparitively), and I think we need to leave him there, per se.

2. Along the same lines, we're putting words in Yeshua's mouth. I'm really not sure Yeshua would have "bragged" about his talks with other religious leaders, and how he one-uped them. I don't think he would have talked in that casual a voice, either, but that's my opinion. Supporting my opinion is Yeshua's exact response (Mark 7:9-13), which was quite abrupt, and dealt in terms of putting Oral Torah above Written Torah. Ironically, it dealt nothing with ritual hand-washing, but with honoring one's parents.

3. This post, along with several commentors, eludes to the fact that Yeshua either did not follow the Law, or did away with the Law, or both, whether that be ritual hand-washing, tithing, or honoring one's parents. Both ideas are falacies. This is an extrememly broad topic, but In short, to the first half of the statement, if Yeshua didn't follow the Law perfectly, he wasn't the Messiah. And the second half of the comment, Seth, I'll call you out particularly... Read Matt 5:17 and tell me again that Yeshua abolished the Law. If you still think he did, please take a pen and cross that verse out of your Bible, noting that you're crossing out the red ink.

You still rock, Brant!
Posted By Cory D. Jones | March 31, 2010 @ 12:48
Brant -
I just re-read your response to your post, and would like to challenge you on a couple of things.

"I do think if we're going to apply O.T. laws to ourselves, we're in serious trouble." Applying and following OT Law to oneself doesn't get one in trouble... Believing that following the Law will get one into heaven, is where the trouble lies.

"And we also have to ignore Romans, for starters." This is untrue, but my reponses to the first sentence and next sentence should prove that.

"We are no longer bound to O.T. law." This is true, as Gentiles, we are not bound to it. However, following it certainly can't be a bad thing. (Keeping in mind that it won't get anyone extra jewels in their crown...)

I ask you, purely hypothetically, if Jesus followed the Law, and we so yearn to be like him, why don't we follow the same law?
Posted By Cory D. Jones | March 31, 2010 @ 2:07
OK, for all the "how can you say we shouldn't tithe" people out there... the blog says that the Father doesn't have a heart for the tithing rule (read the whole thing folks, not just part of it). I'm thinking the emphasis is on the rule part, not the tithe part. God does want us to tithe, but from a heart of mercy (i.e., HIS heart of mercy in us) not because we're obeying a rule. God doesn't need our money, but money is a huge security blanket for us. By suggesting that we tithe/give, our Father is asking us to allow Him to be our security blanket by challenging us to let go of the security we all too often prefer. When you align your heart and spirit with His heart and Spirit the giving will flow naturally and joyfully and will not need any imposed rules/shoulds. Just sayin' :)
Posted By Papa's girl | March 31, 2010 @ 6:42
Wow, Brant loved the article the crazy thing to me is all the comments from people disagreeing. I actually LOL to the several comments saying you over simplify....I think that may have been what the Pharisees said to Jesus:)(no offense please disagreers")
Posted By Marti | April 23, 2010 @ 7:26
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