Osama and My Youth Group

 

 

I asked a Muslim imam, on my talk radio show, "What's the matter with the world?"

"Not everyone has read the Koran."

Uh...did Osama do what he did because he didn't read the Koran?

 

Answer:  "Yes.  He hasn't read the Koran.  He has not read it all.  Anyone who reads it would not do wrong things." 

So if someone gets him to read the Koran, he won't kill people like that?  Couldn't it be that he's studied it, but he's ignoring it or, possibly, it just hasn't changed him?

"No," said the imam with a doctorate.  "If he reads it, he will do the right thing.  The Koran would change his heart, because it is from God.  He needs only to read it.  The problem with the world is that people have not read the Koran."

Wow.  Didn't expect that.

...and then I remembered the churches I've been in.  Bible churches, rooted in biblical teaching, teaching the word, teaching the truth about the Bible, teaching in sermons (which was for the teaching part of Sunday morning), "Sunday Schools" (which was for the teaching part of Sunday morning), Revival meetings with guest teachers, Bible studies for mid-week teachings, "Vacation Bible Schools" where we got some teaching about the Bible.  We had "church camp", too, with a different emphasis:  Teaching, yes, but outside.

We were encouraged to listen to the Christian teaching radio station, too, in order to get some solid Bible teaching, and buy books that teach us about the Bible.  And we had three services a week, where we gather to sing and pray (a bit) before everything built up to a teaching.

And yes, I know, teaching is good.  Truth is, I like being taught.  And I've been taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught, and taught.  And taught.

And I owe much to gifted teachers in my life.  I'd write some fan mail, but a lot of them died before I was born.  In high school, a terrific speaker with a brilliant, gifted theological mind, came to be a preacher at our small country church.  Everyone said he was a great Bible teacher.  I loved him.

But I don't remember a single sermon.  Not one.  I do remember he came to play football with me when my parents got divorced.  I still love him.

Once, we attended a Bible Church that prided itself on its "meaty" teaching.  My wife and I loved the people we'd met, and were excited when they announced an "Ol' Time Ice Cream Social"!  We showed up and started, finally, getting to know a family that had just moved down from Canada.  Turns out, Loren was a scientist who had become a believer when --

Wait.  The pastor's tapping a microphone up front.  Then, way-too-loud, out of the P.A. in the gym:  "Is this thing on?...okay...ahem..."

You've gotta be kidding me.

"Please feel free to keep eating your ice cream!  We're glad you're here.  Of course, no gathering is complete without a study of the Word, so we're going to take a look at first John chapter 2 tonight and..."

I feel like my learning has accelerated in the last several years.  I particularly love being taught through experience, in addition to books.  What's more, God makes EVERYTHING interesting.  Belief in Jesus doesn't render everything else "just details", it makes everything deeply fascinating.  There is much to learn, indeed.  Shoes, ships, cabbages, kings.

And yet:  Jesus said children can understand the Kingdom.  And the greatest, smartest, teacher ever didn't back up the Didactic Truck of Knowledge on us -- He told stories.  Some of the stories, a lot of religious, learned folks just couldn't comprehend.  To His disciples, He said, "Follow me," without much teaching build-up.  He had ample time to sermonize, to make sure they understood doctrine thoroughly, but you get the feeling the crucifixion caught many of them by surprise.

The Greatest Teacher Ever.  And honestly -- forgive me, again, if I'm wrong, for I'm no theologian -- but it sure seems like He could've spent a lot more time lecturing.  It sure seems like He could've made SURE that those following Him would, in an academic sense, "get it." 

"But Brant, didn't the early believers 'devote themselves to the apostles' teaching?'"

Well, sure.  And they had to be taught.  Learning was, and is, vital.  But imagine if you were given the teaching, "Love your neighbor."  What would "devoting your life" to that teaching look like?   I now suspect it means having time available to be in my neighbor's kitchen, even at the expense of time in a lecture environment.

In my radio job, I have a "talent coach".  He teaches doing tightly-edited, personable, creative radio, and tells me how to do it.  When I think of devoting myself to his teaching, I don't picture academic settings, focused on parsing his words.  I think of doing the things he wants me to do when I'm on the air.

When I was first a youth minister, though, I figured, "If I just teach about such-and-such, if we just have more time to go over this, if they'd just really listen..."  I thought knowledge would make the difference.  Just knowing more.   But you know what I bet that group remembers?  When I stood out in the snow with the my group of 15 at the community "lock-in", because they all -- every single kid in my high school group -- had to take smoke breaks through the night.  I bet the other youth ministers remember that, too.) 

Teaching them in a lecture environment was pretty easy.  What's more:  I was in control.  Maybe that's why I thought more exposure to the book would whip them into shape.

So the imam's idea seemed silly, but you know?  It had a whiff of familiarity about it.

posted by Brant Hansen at 7:00 AM on May 1st, 2010
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I think we just need a good balance in our lives, A good balance between teaching/learning and doing/showing/being. I mean you have to learn it before you can live it, and you have to live it if you've really learned it. There is so much to learn, we'll never be finished with learning, but there is so much to live and show too. I know for me personally I am moved so much by witnessing a person actually walk the talk. I have heard many lectures and sermons and they all make good points, but what really keeps me encouraged to turn those good points into real action is when I know someone else is actually walking that walk and doing it. I have been hurt by people who preached at me and then I discovered that they themselves were not practicing what they preached. When I find someone who is willing to show me that they are living it out, or at least sincerly trying to live it out, then I am encouraged and motivated to do the same.
Posted By Heather | May 1, 2010 @ 7:18 AM
Gotta agree with the previous commenter, Heather: balance, balance, balance. Honestly, ignorance of the Bible is at an all-time high in this country. I would suspect that if you were to pull five random Christians out of any church and ask them to show you three verses from the Bible that say that Jesus is the only way to God, they would probably crash and burn. That's pretty sad when you get down to it.

The problem isn't too much teaching, Brant. The problem is that most churches lack a systematic cradle to grave vision for discipleship. So while there may be teaching, even a lot of it, it's more haphazard than some church leaders are willing to admit.
Posted By DLE | May 1, 2010 @ 8:24 AM
I guess there always has been and there always will be Pharisees. I think you're right about the familiarity of the Imam's theology. I'm sure he really believes that just reading the Koran will change people from the inside out, just like, as you pointed out, a lot of Christians believe that about the Bible. But the actual living it out day to day is just a bit more complicated. I've prayed so many times for the Spirit to fill me so I overflow with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self control, and so many many times I finish my prayer and manifest not even one of those fruits.
I wish it wasn't so, but it is. There is no magic formula to make us nice. Not in the Koran, not in the Bible. We're just a bunch of sinners and we always will be. I'm not saying there's no sanctification, I'm just saying there's never complete sanctification. We need a savior, not a recipe book.
Posted By mary | May 1, 2010 @ 8:28 AM
Only Jesus can change you, not any book, even the Bible. It's only good if you encounter the living God through it.

Does anyone besides me think a 'cradle to the grave' discipleship program sound terrifying?

We jabber on endlessly about discipleship, and it usually means more teaching and/or comformity to someone's rules of Christian behavior. It is simply following Jesus -- His personal lead. The only way a church can support this is for everyone (well, most) to be following Jesus together, demonstrating how it's done, and include whoever wants to learn to follow Jesus too. This requires a real relationship to a Living Lord, not trying to follow commands in a book.
Posted By Angela | May 1, 2010 @ 8:47 AM
To the first two commentors, please stop believeing the lies Joel Osteen tells. Balance, shmalance... Try a different 'b' word - believe. That's what it's all about. Yes, faith without works is dead; but works without faith is pointless. If you state there is a true balance, you run the risk of implying to non-believers that the faith-works relationship works both ways. The Bible tells us that's impossible. Works are an effect of faith, but faith is not, was not, and never will be, an effect of works.

Brant - I enjoy the post. (Although I think I came across this same post while reading through the archives, is this a re-post?) Truth is, today's churches are very jam-the-Bible-down-your-throat oriented. It's also truth that books don't change people, (thanks, Angela for pointing that out) whether it's the Koran, the Bible, The Shack, Your Best Life Now, or Cat In The Hat. Now, before I get attacked for comparing the Bible with the rest of that list, that's not my intention. My point is that I can read every theological book in the world, for every religion in the world, and still not be changed. That change, that action, if and when the Spirit effectively calls the unregenerate man, is God's and God's alone. (This fact shouldn't come as a surprise, as PLENTY of people have read the Bible and won't be greeting me in heaven.)

So, should the church preach the Bible, of course. Should the members read the Bible (the whole Bible), of course. Should the members set an example of how to live (according to the Bible, which they have read), of course. But are those works a result, or an effect, of reading the Bible, no. That's God. God is the author of change. Without belief, will those works be jewels in a crown, or menstrual rags to God? Without faith (first), the answer is the less desirable of the two.

Belief, not balance, is what's important. Churches (especially Lakewood) should keep that in mind.
Posted By Cory D. Jones | May 3, 2010 @ 2:54 AM
I personally think that teaching is great but not from a book, but from example. I have learned more in my walk with God from being around people who live what my Dad wants us to do then what any preacher/teacher has taught me. Especially the ones from cemetery( seminary). I love reading my bible but most my actions are reflected with what God tells me to do, if I am doing wrong he convicts me of it., Many will theorize that the convictions are from what I have been taught in sunday school, but sadly I am one of those that was not a church goer. So I didn't get the teachings. My faith allows me to believe that God will put the teachers in my life he wants there and that it will be their words and actions that help me get closer to my Lord.
Posted By Dhana Hicks | May 4, 2010 @ 3:00 AM
Hey Brant I love you're show we listen every morning I was just reading Your osama and my youth group post and I think that Jesus didn't explain his sermons all the way was because he wanted his disiples and us to think about whAt he said I know that I personaly get more from message when the person teaching asks questions and gives you things to think about when a sermon is all lauded out I tend to be left wanting more but when there are questions I can stay and think more about it
thanks adi
Posted By Adi | May 26, 2010 @ 1:48 PM
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